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Pestilent small charm of pestilence
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Markus Dolic
2006-08-30 16:21:47 UTC
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just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
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Patrick Vervoorn
2006-08-30 16:28:27 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
Congratulations on a very nice find! According to the d2jsp priceguide:

Sc 313 psn dmg = 6 ist
Sc 451 psn dmg = 20 ist

So somewhere 'in-between'.. ;)
Post by Markus Dolic
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
I suppose about any melee build could use it? But I have little experience
with these. The highest I ever possessed are 100psn SC's/175psn LC's, and
I did put a few of those on melee characters...

Regards,

Patrick.
Markus Dolic
2006-08-30 18:19:37 UTC
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Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I suppose about any melee build could use it? But I have little experience
with these. The highest I ever possessed are 100psn SC's/175psn LC's, and
I did put a few of those on melee characters...
the thing is, it's over 11 seconds... even my slow-as-hell barb hits
at least once per second, and as far as i know poison damage does not
stack.
besides, as mark pointed out, the absolute damage is not all that much
anyway. perhaps i'll do some experiments to see if it makes a noticeable
difference before trading it away, though.
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chainbreaker
2006-08-30 19:49:25 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I suppose about any melee build could use it? But I have little
experience with these. The highest I ever possessed are 100psn
SC's/175psn LC's, and I did put a few of those on melee characters...
the thing is, it's over 11 seconds... even my slow-as-hell barb hits
at least once per second, and as far as i know poison damage does not
stack.
besides, as mark pointed out, the absolute damage is not all that much
anyway. perhaps i'll do some experiments to see if it makes a
noticeable difference before trading it away, though.
Yeah, you're right. I used to like loading my barbs up with PD charms of
that ilk back in 1.09 when whirlwind was a viable attack and you could hit a
lot of monsters quickly, but nowadays slow poison damage for a barb using
frenzy or concentrate when you can only attack at most a couple of monsters
at at time is almost useless. I think perhaps a bowzon might find such PD
charms most useful, but haven't really thought about it.
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chainbreaker
Mark (newsgroups)
2006-08-31 11:28:23 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I suppose about any melee build could use it? But I have little experience
with these. The highest I ever possessed are 100psn SC's/175psn LC's, and
I did put a few of those on melee characters...
the thing is, it's over 11 seconds... even my slow-as-hell barb hits
at least once per second, and as far as i know poison damage does not
stack.
besides, as mark pointed out, the absolute damage is not all that much
anyway. perhaps i'll do some experiments to see if it makes a noticeable
difference before trading it away, though.
That's probably a sensible approach. As misfit says, a strafer might
like it, but I still think you need to stack them, and I know I
wouldn't be able to afford that. I eventually removed the single poison
damage charm I had from my strafer.

For me trading is an annoying activity, but part of life on b.net. If
you are offered a lot for this charm, well that could help buy some
equipment that is more useful than a single poison damage charm.
~misfit~
2006-08-31 22:54:57 UTC
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Post by Mark (newsgroups)
Post by Markus Dolic
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I suppose about any melee build could use it? But I have little
experience with these. The highest I ever possessed are 100psn
SC's/175psn LC's, and I did put a few of those on melee
characters...
the thing is, it's over 11 seconds... even my slow-as-hell barb hits
at least once per second, and as far as i know poison damage does
not stack.
besides, as mark pointed out, the absolute damage is not all that
much anyway. perhaps i'll do some experiments to see if it makes a
noticeable difference before trading it away, though.
That's probably a sensible approach. As misfit says, a strafer might
like it, but I still think you need to stack them, and I know I
wouldn't be able to afford that. I eventually removed the single
poison damage charm I had from my strafer.
Indeed, my strafer likes her pd SCs. It's good to see monsters (even in
hell) dropping dead from poison. Also, it slows monsters life regen nicely.
A half-dozen or so pd SCs and the same number cd SCs make a *huge*
difference to my strafer.
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Shaun.
Mark (newsgroups)
2006-08-30 16:39:47 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
I would have no hesitation in trading it. That amount of poison damage
is miniscule compared to a monsters life in Hell. Even in PvP, for it
to be effective, people stack the charms.
Jamie Kahn Genet
2006-08-30 17:08:37 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
Any build not using venom will benefit from this sweet little charm
you've found.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
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Mickey
2006-08-30 22:31:49 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
Best used by a melee character with an area of effect skill.... in
other words, a bowyer with either strafe or MS.

Mickey
~misfit~
2006-08-31 00:36:16 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
My strafer has five 100 pd SCs so, yeah, I'm guessing a strafer would like
it.
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Shaun.
Alice
2006-09-01 12:40:01 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
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np: Headlights - Pity City
ICQ# 8140105
As others have pointed out, any builds that do not use Venom benefits
from this charm.

Yes, pdsc is reapplied with each attack and does not stack.

Yes, 377 pd is tiny compared to the monster's life in Hell.

If you want to keep it yourself, in no particular orders at all, the
following builds will reap the most benefit from it. Zealot, Frenzy,
Bowie, Dancer, (and maybe FuryPuppy?). Kicker and WhirlySassy more
often than not will max Venom, thus I don't list those two. However
IMO, 1x 100 pdsc works as well, as the main reason for keeping a pdsc
is to prevent monster's health regeneration. I suppose pdsc's can
actually kill a monster if you have enough charms to deal 2000 damage
or so.

So yes, trading is what I'd do. Pdsc is great for PvP, (because
player's life is much lower than monster's life - thus 377 pd is more
felt by a player than a monster). Too bad it only worth few duped Ist
in Eu; It would have worth a truckload of duped high runes in Ea or W.
Mickey
2006-09-01 12:45:09 UTC
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Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range of
8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to figure
out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds could use
that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these), anything else?
btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is interested, let me
know ;)
--
np: Headlights - Pity City
ICQ# 8140105
As others have pointed out, any builds that do not use Venom benefits
from this charm.
Yes, pdsc is reapplied with each attack and does not stack.
Yes, 377 pd is tiny compared to the monster's life in Hell.
Ah, but PD stops monster life regen.

Mickey
Patrick Vervoorn
2006-09-01 12:50:02 UTC
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Post by Mickey
Ah, but PD stops monster life regen.
She said that in the part you snipped.

Patrick.
EvilBill
2006-09-01 16:45:07 UTC
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Post by Alice
Post by Markus Dolic
just found that nice thing yesterday...
377 poison dmg over 11sec (lvl req 80)
a quick price check on one of the trade forums put it in the range
of 8-10 ists, so trading it is very tempting. i'm just trying to
figure out if i might have any use for it myself, so, which builds
could use that charm? i'm guessing bowazons (don't play these),
anything else? btw, if anyone of the euro SCL players here is
interested, let me know ;)
--
np: Headlights - Pity City
ICQ# 8140105
As others have pointed out, any builds that do not use Venom benefits
from this charm.
Yes, pdsc is reapplied with each attack and does not stack.
Yes, 377 pd is tiny compared to the monster's life in Hell.
Ah, but PD stops monster life regen.
And 377 is still no bad thing to have extra, it beats SweetSpearGirl's
piddling 50pd sc ;)
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Markus Dolic
2006-09-01 14:17:05 UTC
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thanks for the information everybody.
as i'm not interested in PvP (yet...), i've decided to sell it - the
leading offer is 7 ists at the moment.
@Alice, about the value - an ist on EU goes for ~8 d2jsp fg at the
moment, HRs on USW apparently for about 5 fg, so the current offer is
the equivalent of ~10 USW high runes, i guess. so it all evens out :)
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