So How Does Your Smiter do 5 K Damage??

[Orion Ryder]

I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage % increase to
fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra total of about
700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to about 1000% extra
damage.

So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.

Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?

Or is there also something like a Might merc involved?

What am I missing?

HELP!!!!!!!

Orion

(cross-posted because I have friends in both groups and it is on-topic
for both groups)

[Robert]

Post by Orion Ryder
I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage % increase to
fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra total of about
700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to about 1000% extra
damage.
So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.
Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?
Or is there also something like a Might merc involved?
What am I missing?

Grief

That and an elite pally shield with maxed Holy Shield, and a few +skill
items should safely get you over 5k dmg. I'm guessing, I haven't worked out
the numbers.

-Robert

not x-posted, well, cuz you can't make me :p

[Mickey]

Post by Robert

Post by Orion Ryder
I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage % increase to
fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra total of about
700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to about 1000% extra
damage.
So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.
Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?
Or is there also something like a Might merc involved?
What am I missing?

Grief
That and an elite pally shield with maxed Holy Shield, and a few +skill
items should safely get you over 5k dmg. I'm guessing, I haven't worked out
the numbers.
-Robert

How's about Phoenix?

Mickey

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by Mickey
How's about Phoenix?

I know the Arreat Summit, at:

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml

says, for Phoenix in a shield the following:

Shields
100% Chance To Cast level 40 Blaze When You Level-up
40% Chance To Cast Level 22 Firestorm On Striking
Level 10-15 Redemption Aura When Equipped (varies)
+350-400 Defense Vs. Missile (varies)
+350-400 Enhanced Damage (varies)
-28% To Enemy Fire Resistance
+50 To Life
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist
+10% To Maximum Fire Resist
+15-21 Fire Absorb (varies)

But is that damage line for real, or a type where they forgot to add a '%'
character? If so, this is also a very nice Smiter weapon!

Regards,

Patrick.

[Brian]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by Mickey
How's about Phoenix?

Chaos Empire RW list (taken from the files directly but not certain there
is no change to this rw in this mod)

100% Chance to cast Level 40 Blaze when at Level-Up
40% Chance to cast Level 22 Firestorm on striking
Level 10 - 15 Redemption Aura when equipped
350% - 436% Enhanced Damage
-28% to Enemy Fire Resistance
350 - 400 Defense vs. Missile
Fire Absorb 15 - 21
Maximum Resist Fire 5%
Maximum Resist Fire 5%
Maximum Resist Lightning 5%
50 to Life

******so if the damage of the shield is >100, the % is bigger.

Question: does the Firestorm have a cast delay, and if so dies it obstruct
Zeal forcing a cast-delay between attacks? Do multiple Firestorms add
damage?

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml
Shields
100% Chance To Cast level 40 Blaze When You Level-up 40% Chance To Cast
Level 22 Firestorm On Striking Level 10-15 Redemption Aura When Equipped
(varies) +350-400 Defense Vs. Missile (varies) +350-400 Enhanced Damage
(varies)
-28% To Enemy Fire Resistance
+50 To Life
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist
+10% To Maximum Fire Resist
+15-21 Fire Absorb (varies)
But is that damage line for real, or a type where they forgot to add a
'%' character? If so, this is also a very nice Smiter weapon!
Regards,
Patrick.

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by Mickey
How's about Phoenix?

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml
Shields
100% Chance To Cast level 40 Blaze When You Level-up
40% Chance To Cast Level 22 Firestorm On Striking
Level 10-15 Redemption Aura When Equipped (varies)
+350-400 Defense Vs. Missile (varies)
+350-400 Enhanced Damage (varies)
-28% To Enemy Fire Resistance
+50 To Life
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist
+10% To Maximum Fire Resist
+15-21 Fire Absorb (varies)
But is that damage line for real, or a type where they forgot to add a '%'
character? If so, this is also a very nice Smiter weapon!

Well, guess not:

Loading Image...

They forgot to add the %, so Phoenix probably does nothing for Smite
damage.

Regards,

Patrick.

[Orion Ryder]

Post by Mickey

Post by Robert

Post by Orion Ryder
I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage % increase to
fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra total of about
700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to about 1000% extra
damage.
So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.
Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?
Or is there also something like a Might merc involved?
What am I missing?

Grief
That and an elite pally shield with maxed Holy Shield, and a few +skill
items should safely get you over 5k dmg. I'm guessing, I haven't worked out
the numbers.
-Robert

How's about Phoenix?
Mickey

Of great 2 VEX 1 LO 1 JAH

At least the Grief needs 1 LO

These people that write about an Uber going down so fast to a Smite, I
wonder what damage is needed and how many times the Pally has to
"smiteth unto thee" upon the beast.

If an Uber has 650,000 hp and it goes down in no time, say 10 Smites is
no time and crushing blow is part and parcel of that, why is it that
some peopel claim smite is better than Zeal? beacuse it hits all the
time? One hit of guaranteed Smite damage is greater than 5 possible
hits of Zeal damage? Hmm well if Smite is at 6 K and Zeal is at 1.5 K
then perhaps it is better, but there will be less Crushing Blows being
laid upon said beast.

Is it that the Uber gets stunned and so continue to fst attack with a
Smite and the Uber gets stun locked and gets beaten the piss out of it?

I smiteth unto thee dreaded beast of Hell!!

Ugh!!

Ugh!!

Orion

[~misfit~]

Post by Orion Ryder

Post by Mickey

Post by Robert

Post by Orion Ryder
I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage %
increase to fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra
total of about 700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to
about 1000% extra damage.
So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.
Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?
Or is there also something like a Might merc involved?
What am I missing?

Grief
That and an elite pally shield with maxed Holy Shield, and a few
+skill items should safely get you over 5k dmg. I'm guessing, I
haven't worked out
the numbers.
-Robert

How's about Phoenix?
Mickey

Of great 2 VEX 1 LO 1 JAH
At least the Grief needs 1 LO
These people that write about an Uber going down so fast to a Smite, I
wonder what damage is needed and how many times the Pally has to
"smiteth unto thee" upon the beast.
If an Uber has 650,000 hp and it goes down in no time, say 10 Smites
is no time and crushing blow is part and parcel of that, why is it
that some peopel claim smite is better than Zeal? beacuse it hits all
the time? One hit of guaranteed Smite damage is greater than 5
possible hits of Zeal damage? Hmm well if Smite is at 6 K and Zeal is
at 1.5 K then perhaps it is better, but there will be less Crushing
Blows being laid upon said beast.

The biggest benefit I see with Smite over Zeal in UT is that, Smite always
hits the monster you have name-locked. With Zeal I can have Uber-Baal
name-locked and only be hitting him one out of 5 hits. The other 4 are
getting laid on surrounding minions. It's not a problem with Dracs and a
4-frame Zeal, it just takes longer. The end result is the same. However, if
there were no minions, I personally don't think they'd be much difference
between the two attacks and how long it takes to kill said Uber.

[Brian]

Post by Orion Ryder
I smiteth unto thee dreaded beast of Hell!!
Ugh!!
Ugh!!

Agreed.

'smite' is a transitive verb:

I smite thee
Thou smitest me
he smiteth the wall
we smite them
ye smite whom ye will
they smite one another

The Kings English is archaic and ugly, but it merits a bit of respect.

[Mickey]

Post by Brian

Post by Orion Ryder
I smiteth unto thee dreaded beast of Hell!!
Ugh!!
Ugh!!

Agreed.

A transvestite verb? What, it's in heels?

Mickey

[Brian]

Post by Mickey
A transvestite verb? What, it's in heels?
Mickey

Heel is a intransitive verb.

[Orion Ryder]

Post by Robert

Post by Orion Ryder
I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage % increase to
fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra total of about
700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to about 1000% extra
damage.
So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.
Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?
Or is there also something like a Might merc involved?
What am I missing?

Grief
That and an elite pally shield with maxed Holy Shield, and a few +skill
items should safely get you over 5k dmg. I'm guessing, I haven't worked out
the numbers.
-Robert
not x-posted, well, cuz you can't make me :p

Hmm, so Holy Shiled adds to Amite damage also? THis must be listed in
the Holy Shield section and not included in the Smite section as a
synergy. Now I better look to see if there is anything else that adds
damage to Smite.

Orion

[Brian]

Hmm, so Holy Shield adds to Smite damage also?

It adds a mite...

[Shiflet]

Post by Orion Ryder
I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage % increase to
fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra total of about
700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to about 1000% extra
damage.
So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.
Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?

No, but 1)Holy Shield boosts Smite damage and 2)Grief adds +400 BASE Smite
damage(Redeemer and Astreon's also boost base Smite damage, but not as much)

Post by Orion Ryder
Orion

[Mickey]

Post by Shiflet

Post by Orion Ryder
I'm looking at the damage % increase to Smite and Damage % increase to
fanatacism and at level 20 for both I see and ectra total of about
700%. With skill plusses I figure one can get up to about 1000% extra
damage.
So 5 K / 11 = aproximately 450.
Are there shields that do this much Smite Damage?

No, but 1)Holy Shield boosts Smite damage and 2)Grief adds +400 BASE Smite
damage(Redeemer and Astreon's also boost base Smite damage, but not as much)

How about Phoenix?

Mickey

[Shiflet]

Post by Mickey
How about Phoenix?

Nope, just Astreons, Grief, Redeemer, and Stone Crusher. ONLY + damage, and
ONLY from those 4 weapons work. Enhanced damage is worthless for Smite,
neither Phoenix nor Fortitude will help there.

Post by Mickey
Mickey

[Mickey]

Post by Shiflet

Post by Mickey
How about Phoenix?

Nope, just Astreons, Grief, Redeemer, and Stone Crusher. ONLY + damage, and
ONLY from those 4 weapons work. Enhanced damage is worthless for Smite,
neither Phoenix nor Fortitude will help there.

Of course. The problem is what to believe, as the AS lists the damage on
Phoenix as +DAM, but the item itself lists it as +%.

Mickey

[Shiflet]

Post by Mickey
Of course. The problem is what to believe, as the AS lists the damage on
Phoenix as +DAM, but the item itself lists it as +%.

I checked AS while posting, it was listed as +%

Post by Mickey
Mickey

[Mickey]

Post by Shiflet

Post by Mickey
Of course. The problem is what to believe, as the AS lists the damage on
Phoenix as +DAM, but the item itself lists it as +%.

I checked AS while posting, it was listed as +%

Not on shields it doesn't, check again.

Mickey

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by Mickey

Post by Shiflet

Post by Mickey
Of course. The problem is what to believe, as the AS lists the damage on
Phoenix as +DAM, but the item itself lists it as +%.

I checked AS while posting, it was listed as +%

Not on shields it doesn't, check again.

Yes, and as I already posted in another part of this thread, it's an error
on the Arreat Summit:

http://www.3dsgau.de/website2/images/phoenix.jpg

So it's more or less useless for a Smiter.

Regards,

Patrick.

[Mickey]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by Mickey

Post by Shiflet

Post by Mickey
Of course. The problem is what to believe, as the AS lists the damage on
Phoenix as +DAM, but the item itself lists it as +%.

I checked AS while posting, it was listed as +%

Not on shields it doesn't, check again.

Yes, and as I already posted in another part of this thread, it's an error
http://www.3dsgau.de/website2/images/phoenix.jpg
So it's more or less useless for a Smiter.

I have been considering Griswold' set with 12 +dam jewels in it. Might be
interesting.

Mickey

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by Mickey

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Yes, and as I already posted in another part of this thread, it's an error
http://www.3dsgau.de/website2/images/phoenix.jpg
So it's more or less useless for a Smiter.

I have been considering Griswold' set with 12 +dam jewels in it. Might be
interesting.

I don't think that'll work either: jewels add to either min and/or max
damage, not a 'plain' +damage modifier like on Grief, Astreon's, etc.

Grisworld's Shield isn't too bad for a Smiter though: elite, additional
blocking rate and chance, built-in res, and 3 open sockets which are just
begging to be filled with PDiamonds (or Ums if you're rich and want
maximum resists).

If I had one, I'd probably use that instead of a 4 PDiamonded Elite Kurast
Shield...

Regards,

Patrick.

[Mickey]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by Mickey

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Yes, and as I already posted in another part of this thread, it's an error
http://www.3dsgau.de/website2/images/phoenix.jpg
So it's more or less useless for a Smiter.

I have been considering Griswold' set with 12 +dam jewels in it. Might be
interesting.

I don't think that'll work either: jewels add to either min and/or max
damage, not a 'plain' +damage modifier like on Grief, Astreon's, etc.
Grisworld's Shield isn't too bad for a Smiter though: elite, additional
blocking rate and chance, built-in res, and 3 open sockets which are just
begging to be filled with PDiamonds (or Ums if you're rich and want
maximum resists).
If I had one, I'd probably use that instead of a 4 PDiamonded Elite Kurast
Shield...

I have a jewel that adds 8-16 damage. Not max, not min, just damage.

Mickey

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by Mickey

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I don't think that'll work either: jewels add to either min and/or max
damage, not a 'plain' +damage modifier like on Grief, Astreon's, etc.
Grisworld's Shield isn't too bad for a Smiter though: elite, additional
blocking rate and chance, built-in res, and 3 open sockets which are just
begging to be filled with PDiamonds (or Ums if you're rich and want
maximum resists).
If I had one, I'd probably use that instead of a 4 PDiamonded Elite Kurast
Shield...

I have a jewel that adds 8-16 damage. Not max, not min, just damage.

What's it's full name? 'Crimson Jewel of Carnage'? If you look at:

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/jewels.shtml

you'll see all physical-damage related modifiers are either +min, +max or
%-based. None of these will work with Smite, AFAIK.

Regards,

Patrick.

[RegNitto]

I had to go back and check my NL smiter.. he's lvl80 with maxed Conc,
Fanat, Holy Shield and Smite... with his plus skills, he's at 29 to
conc/fanat and 27 to shield and smite. Now he has an Eth Exile Vortex
shield and BotD axe... damage according to the stats is 1136-2210. I
can only guess that this could be improved with Arachnid belt and a
couple charms, plus a torch would bring him up +6 to skills and thereby
increasing the damage... unfortunately I don't have any of this
equipment to test this theory...


I can't see getting to 5k :(


Reg

[Mickey]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by Mickey

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
I don't think that'll work either: jewels add to either min and/or max
damage, not a 'plain' +damage modifier like on Grief, Astreon's, etc.
Grisworld's Shield isn't too bad for a Smiter though: elite, additional
blocking rate and chance, built-in res, and 3 open sockets which are just
begging to be filled with PDiamonds (or Ums if you're rich and want
maximum resists).
If I had one, I'd probably use that instead of a 4 PDiamonded Elite Kurast
Shield...

I have a jewel that adds 8-16 damage. Not max, not min, just damage.

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/jewels.shtml
you'll see all physical-damage related modifiers are either +min, +max or
%-based. None of these will work with Smite, AFAIK.

Not sure what the mods are, it just says 8-16 damage.

Mickey

[Shiflet]

Post by Mickey
I have a jewel that adds 8-16 damage. Not max, not min, just damage.

That's only cause it has one mod that adds +min and one that adds +max and
they just shorten it when it gets that mod. It's NOT the same mod as the one
on Grief et al.

Post by Mickey
Mickey

[Mickey]

Post by Shiflet

Post by Mickey
How about Phoenix?

Nope, just Astreons, Grief, Redeemer, and Stone Crusher. ONLY + damage, and
ONLY from those 4 weapons work. Enhanced damage is worthless for Smite,
neither Phoenix nor Fortitude will help there.

Methinks Fleshripper might also be a great item for a smiter. Not too many
wasted mods on that puppy.

Mickey

[Stephen van Ham]

Post by Mickey
Methinks Fleshripper might also be a great item for a smiter. Not too many
wasted mods on that puppy.

That's what mine uses. :-)

[Shiflet]

Post by Mickey
Methinks Fleshripper might also be a great item for a smiter. Not too many
wasted mods on that puppy.

Well yes, Fleshripper is a very good smiters weapon. So is Stormlash.
Actually, those 2, Astreon's, and Grief are the 4 weapons I consider "ideal"
for smiters. I always include those if I'm listing good smiter weapons, I
only omitted it cause I was just explaining how a smiter got actual 5k
damage, rather than a list of all weapons that benefit a smiter. Doom is
good too, but really, that's cause of the Holy Freeze rather than the mods.
Fleshrender and Heaven's Light actually aren't bad either. And a Black flail
of course is well known as a fast source of CB if all else fails.

Post by Mickey
Mickey