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Upgraded items
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Tora
2004-05-07 12:25:22 UTC
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I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
Or is there always an elite of the same kind that is better, which would
make upgrading a waste of the runes?

The only thing i've upgraded till now is a Goldwrap, because it gives 4
extra slots for full rejuvs.

Tora
Patrick Vervoorn
2004-05-07 12:31:20 UTC
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Post by Tora
I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
Or is there always an elite of the same kind that is better, which would
make upgrading a waste of the runes?
The only thing i've upgraded till now is a Goldwrap, because it gives 4
extra slots for full rejuvs.
I've upgraded Nightsmoke for my Skellymancer for the same reason. I do
have a Gloom's trap, but decided I could use the +resists of the
Nightsmoke better.

Swapped them also, but didn't notice a lot of effect on my other stats. So
I'm still running around with the Upped Nightsmoke.

Besides Arachnid Mesh (never found one) what's the best belt for a Necro?

Regards,

Patrick.
Tora
2004-05-07 12:38:37 UTC
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Trang's belt is nice, when using the set
Currently using Goldwrap on my necro because he's my main mf-char.
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Post by Tora
I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
Or is there always an elite of the same kind that is better, which would
make upgrading a waste of the runes?
The only thing i've upgraded till now is a Goldwrap, because it gives 4
extra slots for full rejuvs.
I've upgraded Nightsmoke for my Skellymancer for the same reason. I do
have a Gloom's trap, but decided I could use the +resists of the
Nightsmoke better.
Swapped them also, but didn't notice a lot of effect on my other stats. So
I'm still running around with the Upped Nightsmoke.
Besides Arachnid Mesh (never found one) what's the best belt for a Necro?
Regards,
Patrick.
Patrick Vervoorn
2004-05-07 12:40:51 UTC
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Post by Tora
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Besides Arachnid Mesh (never found one) what's the best belt for a Necro?
Trang's belt is nice, when using the set
Yeah, well, another one of those things I never found: a single piece of
Trang-Oul's set. ;)
Post by Tora
Currently using Goldwrap on my necro because he's my main mf-char.
I have some Goldwraps stashed away, might dig one of those up, since my
necro is also my main (SP) mf-char...

Patrick.
Tora
2004-05-07 12:44:12 UTC
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Are you on hc or sc ladder ?
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Post by Tora
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Besides Arachnid Mesh (never found one) what's the best belt for a Necro?
Trang's belt is nice, when using the set
Yeah, well, another one of those things I never found: a single piece of
Trang-Oul's set. ;)
Post by Tora
Currently using Goldwrap on my necro because he's my main mf-char.
I have some Goldwraps stashed away, might dig one of those up, since my
necro is also my main (SP) mf-char...
Patrick.
Patrick Vervoorn
2004-05-07 12:48:07 UTC
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Post by Tora
Are you on hc or sc ladder ?
Single-Player only at the moment, but am thinking about moving to Bnet...

Should start a necro there in any case, for collecting some nice items for
other characters... So much to do, so little time... ;)

Patrick.
Tora
2004-05-07 13:01:07 UTC
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If you ever decide to move to battle.net SC Europe ladder or non-ladder, i
could give you a hand (that is if you need one :)

Tora
Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Post by Tora
Are you on hc or sc ladder ?
Single-Player only at the moment, but am thinking about moving to Bnet...
Should start a necro there in any case, for collecting some nice items for
other characters... So much to do, so little time... ;)
Patrick.
Patrick Vervoorn
2004-05-07 13:32:35 UTC
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Post by Tora
If you ever decide to move to battle.net SC Europe ladder or non-ladder, i
could give you a hand (that is if you need one :)
I think SC Europe will be the logical move for me, being located in The
Netherlands, and disliking the 'final-ness' of HC, so I'll keep your offer
in mind.

Thanks for the offer in any case!
Post by Tora
Tora
Patrick.
Brian Brunner
2004-05-07 22:08:46 UTC
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Post by Tora
If you ever decide to move to battle.net SC Europe ladder or non-ladder, i
could give you a hand (that is if you need one :)
Give either The Finger, or The Arm.

Hand's won't help a skelliemancer.
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J
2004-05-09 20:03:28 UTC
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Post by Brian Brunner
Post by Tora
If you ever decide to move to battle.net SC Europe ladder or non-ladder, i
could give you a hand (that is if you need one :)
Give either The Finger, or The Arm.
Hand's won't help a skelliemancer.
Hehe... good one!

Jonas
Jonathan Ellis
2004-05-07 12:32:08 UTC
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Post by Tora
I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
Or is there always an elite of the same kind that is better, which would
make upgrading a waste of the runes?
The only thing i've upgraded till now is a Goldwrap, because it gives 4
extra slots for full rejuvs.
I upgraded a Nightsmoke for exactly the same reason. Really, upgrading
normal to exceptional unique items only depends on the number of the
higher-level rune (Sol or Shael) that you find.

Upgrading exceptional to elite is a much harder question.

Jonathan.
chainbreaker
2004-05-07 13:22:40 UTC
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Post by Tora
I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
I've tried a few, but after comparing what I had (and would get) with what
was available, decided that in general it's not really worth fooling with.
The Goldwrap you mention is one I found to be worthwhile, as was a
Shadowfang I upgraded for a leech-deprived barb I had.
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Bingain
2004-05-07 14:12:12 UTC
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Post by Tora
I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
Or is there always an elite of the same kind that is better, which would
make upgrading a waste of the runes?
The only thing i've upgraded till now is a Goldwrap, because it gives 4
extra slots for full rejuvs.
Goldwrap and Nightsmoke are worth upgrading, just for the extra row of
slots.

My favorite Exceptional armor for upgrading (for melee chars) is Duriel's
Shell as it won't need too much str (only 118 str after upgraded) for a
1.3-1.8k defense armor with sweet mods as well as Cant be Frozen mod which
allows you to wear another ring instead of Ravenfrost.

Many people also upgrade Vipermagi and Shaftstop. I've never tried both.

When I was making my singing barb, I upgraded a Skewer of Krinitz unique
sword just for it's ITD mod (it's cheap to upgrade normal unique weapons).

Many people upgrade Witchwild String to elite bow. I'd upgrade a Lycanders
Aim to GM bow, but considering a WF is now selling for a Mal or so, it'd be
kind of silly to do the upgrade.

I suppose Crushflange is worth upgrading if you are making a DC handler.
Steeldriver is nice to upgrade if you're making an IK barb.

Bing
Walt
2004-05-07 14:15:15 UTC
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my upgraded-items-list so far:

duriels shell (196%)
ripcracker (199%)
2 goldwraps

A pity you cannot upgrade set items. Aldurs weapon would be the first in the
line...

Walt
Whitedog
2004-05-07 14:17:30 UTC
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Post by Tora
I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
Or is there always an elite of the same kind that is better, which would
make upgrading a waste of the runes?
The only thing i've upgraded till now is a Goldwrap, because it gives 4
extra slots for full rejuvs.
Shaftstop and Duriel's Shell are two great upgrades. I've also upgraded
rockstoppers. Nightsmoke isn't a bad upgrade for intermediate gear either.
chainbreaker
2004-05-07 15:01:12 UTC
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Post by Whitedog
Shaftstop and Duriel's Shell are two great upgrades. I've also
upgraded rockstoppers. Nightsmoke isn't a bad upgrade for
intermediate gear either.
Do you recall the stats/requirements for an upgraded Shell?

Don't go to much trouble to locate them if you don't. :-)
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Aginrikr
2004-05-07 16:57:58 UTC
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Post by chainbreaker
Do you recall the stats/requirements for an upgraded Shell?
Don't go to much trouble to locate them if you don't. :-)
Def: 1390-1629
Str req: 118
Lvl req: 68

Agin
Walt
2004-05-07 17:48:03 UTC
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Post by Aginrikr
Post by chainbreaker
Do you recall the stats/requirements for an upgraded Shell?
Don't go to much trouble to locate them if you don't. :-)
Def: 1390-1629
Str req: 118
Lvl req: 68
Agin
well, actually it is lvl63. Don't asked me why but that is what my character
screen is saying.

screenshot at: Loading Image...

Walt
Whitedog
2004-05-07 18:40:31 UTC
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Post by Walt
Post by Aginrikr
Post by chainbreaker
Do you recall the stats/requirements for an upgraded Shell?
Don't go to much trouble to locate them if you don't. :-)
Def: 1390-1629
Str req: 118
Lvl req: 68
Agin
well, actually it is lvl63. Don't asked me why but that is what my character
screen is saying.
screenshot at: http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e9173169/Screenshot007.jpg
Mine upgraded to 63 as well.
Aginrikr
2004-05-07 21:09:50 UTC
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Post by Walt
well, actually it is lvl63. Don't asked me why but that is what my character
screen is saying.
screenshot at: http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e9173169/Screenshot007.jpg
Hm, maybe the guys at this page http://tinyurl.com/2s89q did see wrong or
something then.

Agin
David Carson
2004-05-07 22:00:59 UTC
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Post by Aginrikr
Post by Walt
well, actually it is lvl63. Don't asked me why but that is what my character
screen is saying.
screenshot at: http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e9173169/Screenshot007.jpg
Hm, maybe the guys at this page http://tinyurl.com/2s89q did see wrong or
something then.
I recommend rather http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~deykea/d2armours.html -
that site gets the level requirement correct.

Also, taking a closer look at the link you posted, it seems that they've
also got the defense wrong - they've forgotten that upgrading armour
with +ED% does _not_ automatically take the top end of the armour
defense range, like the original item does. The actual range on an
upgraded Duriel's is rather larger than what they say.

Cheers!
David...
chainbreaker
2004-05-07 21:56:47 UTC
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Post by Aginrikr
Hm, maybe the guys at this page http://tinyurl.com/2s89q did see
wrong or something then.
Agin
I suppose that 3 *could* look like an 8, especially if you were in a hurry.
:-)
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chainbreaker
2004-05-07 17:21:40 UTC
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Post by Aginrikr
Def: 1390-1629
Str req: 118
Lvl req: 68
Agin
Thanks. :-)
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Whitedog
2004-05-07 18:37:24 UTC
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Post by Whitedog
Shaftstop and Duriel's Shell are two great upgrades. I've also
upgraded rockstoppers. Nightsmoke isn't a bad upgrade for
intermediate gear either.
Do you recall the stats/requirements for an upgraded Shell?
Don't go to much trouble to locate them if you don't. :-)
That's the beauty of upgrading the shell. A Great Hauberk only requires 118
strength and lvl 56. Not bad considering I ended up with almost 1.3k of
defense off it.
Mark Morrison
2004-05-08 23:40:20 UTC
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Post by Tora
I was wondering what uniques are definitely worth upgrading ?
Or is there always an elite of the same kind that is better, which would
make upgrading a waste of the runes?
The only thing i've upgraded till now is a Goldwrap, because it gives 4
extra slots for full rejuvs.
Tora
What *is* the upgrade recipe ?

And can I upgrade a Buriza ?
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Bingain
2004-05-08 23:50:23 UTC
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Post by Mark Morrison
What *is* the upgrade recipe ?
. 1 Ral Rune + 1 Sol Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Normal Unique Weapon =
Exceptional Version of Unique Weapon
. 1 Tal Rune + 1 Shael Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Normal Unique Armor =
Exceptional Version of Unique Armor
. 1 Lum Rune + 1 Pul Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Exceptional Unique Weapon =
Elite Version of Unique Weapon (Ladder Only)
. 1 Ko Rune + 1 Lem Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Exceptional Unique Armor =
Elite Version of Unique Armor (Ladder Only)
Post by Mark Morrison
And can I upgrade a Buriza ?
Yes, but why upgrade it if you play on the realms. You can buy a Windforce
for a Mal today, and since prices drop by the hour, wait a few days and you
can probably buy a Windforce for a Pul/Um.


Bing
Falko Rudolph
2004-05-10 06:45:50 UTC
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Post by Bingain
Post by Mark Morrison
What *is* the upgrade recipe ?
. 1 Ral Rune + 1 Sol Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Normal Unique Weapon =
Exceptional Version of Unique Weapon
. 1 Tal Rune + 1 Shael Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Normal Unique Armor =
Exceptional Version of Unique Armor
. 1 Lum Rune + 1 Pul Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Exceptional Unique Weapon =
Elite Version of Unique Weapon (Ladder Only)
. 1 Ko Rune + 1 Lem Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Exceptional Unique Armor =
Elite Version of Unique Armor (Ladder Only)
Are hats and belts considered an armor, too?

Rudi
nyra
2004-05-10 10:08:15 UTC
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Post by Falko Rudolph
Post by Bingain
Post by Mark Morrison
What *is* the upgrade recipe ?
[...]
Post by Falko Rudolph
Post by Bingain
. 1 Tal Rune + 1 Shael Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Normal Unique Armor =
Exceptional Version of Unique Armor
[...]
Post by Falko Rudolph
Are hats and belts considered an armor, too?
Yes, all armour items (gloves, helm etc.) can be upgraded with the
"armour" recipe.
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