Chromatic amulet of the whale

[hmmm!]

On a Nilly walk, i found that blue amulet with 93 to life and 29 res.
all.

I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are almost
perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand , no skill, FCR,
etc.

What do you think?

(Of course on that single Nilly walk, i found a lot of other nice
stuff: Nilly himself dropped 11 Destruction keys, 2 Maras, one cheap
Anihilus (39/28/95...sheeesh!), 6 Hate keys and 27 high runes (the
lowest beeing Zod IIRC). Charsi was happy....

Louis

[Shiflet]

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are almost
perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand , no skill, FCR,
etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want +skills(and maybe
FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want something like Highlords...although
it could make a nice ammy for a melee druid using a 2 handed weapon...

Post by hmmm!
Louis

[~misfit~]

Post by Shiflet

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are
almost perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand , no
skill, FCR, etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want +skills(and
maybe FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want something like
Highlords...although it could make a nice ammy for a melee druid
using a 2 handed weapon...

A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all, damage
reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a character that prefers
it to whatever ammy they're wearing.

[Shiflet]

Post by ~misfit~
A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all, damage
reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a character that
prefers it to whatever ammy they're wearing.

Yeah, I had some amulet awhile back that it took me forever to decide to get
rid of, +3 pally combat skills, +90 life. It always struck me that it might
be a nice hammerdin or FoH pally amulet, but at the same time, I always
decided I'd rather go with a Maras or a nice rare.

Post by ~misfit~
--
Shaun.

[Markus Dolic]

Post by Shiflet
Yeah, I had some amulet awhile back that it took me forever to decide to get
rid of, +3 pally combat skills, +90 life.

uh... maybe you should have tried to sell it - the d2jsp priceguide
for the euro servers lists a value of ~50 ists for a blue +3PC/100 life
amulet:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=2343223&f=170

[Shiflet]

Post by Markus Dolic
uh... maybe you should have tried to sell it - the d2jsp priceguide
for the euro servers lists a value of ~50 ists for a blue +3PC/100 life
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=2343223&f=170

I don't play on Europe servers, I don't play on ladder, people only pay that
for a PERFECT one(mine was 10 life short of perfect, yes, believe it or not
that 10 life difference makes a difference to an item's price), and any time
I offered to sell it nobody was interested.

Post by Markus Dolic
--
np: The Whigs - technology
ICQ# 8140105

[Markus Dolic]

Post by Shiflet
I don't play on Europe servers

i know that, but whether an item is a keeper doesn't really depend on
the server... it's just the actual value that might differ.

Post by Shiflet
people only pay that
for a PERFECT one(mine was 10 life short of perfect, yes, believe it or not
that 10 life difference makes a difference to an item's price)

sure, it was obviously not worth 50 ists, but 90 life is still pretty
nice.

Post by Shiflet
and any time I offered to sell it nobody was interested.

that's the main problem with items like that amulet - somebody might
pay very well for it, but it's hard to find that buyer.
don't know how you tried to sell it, but i wouldn't even bother offering
it in-game, rather just post it on one of the trade forums for a while.
but since you already got rid of it, this discussion is moot anyway.

[Mickey]

Post by Markus Dolic

Post by Shiflet
Yeah, I had some amulet awhile back that it took me forever to decide to get
rid of, +3 pally combat skills, +90 life.

uh... maybe you should have tried to sell it - the d2jsp priceguide
for the euro servers lists a value of ~50 ists for a blue +3PC/100 life
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=2343223&f=170

Gee, I wonder what my +3 traps 100 lifer is worth :)

Mickey

[Markus Dolic]

Post by Mickey
Gee, I wonder what my +3 traps 100 lifer is worth :)

surprisingly, "only" 7-10 ist according to the same guide.
(also euro servers. am i just too stupid to find them, or are there
no priceguides for the US servers on d2jsp?)

[Mickey]

Post by Markus Dolic

Post by Mickey
Gee, I wonder what my +3 traps 100 lifer is worth :)

surprisingly, "only" 7-10 ist according to the same guide.
(also euro servers. am i just too stupid to find them, or are there
no priceguides for the US servers on d2jsp?)

I admit cluelessness here, I never got o d2jsp, as they used to sell
bots.

Mickey

Post by Markus Dolic
--
ICQ# 8140105

[Markus Dolic]

Post by Mickey

Post by Markus Dolic
(also euro servers. am i just too stupid to find them, or are there
no priceguides for the US servers on d2jsp?)

I admit cluelessness here, I never got o d2jsp, as they used to sell
bots.

yep, that's a reason not to use that site. if it weren't the most
active d2 trade forum by far, i'd also prefer to use something else.
at least the forums there were fun to read for a couple of hours after
blizzard locked those thousands of cd keys for bot use :)

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by Mickey

Post by Markus Dolic

Post by Mickey
Gee, I wonder what my +3 traps 100 lifer is worth :)

surprisingly, "only" 7-10 ist according to the same guide.
(also euro servers. am i just too stupid to find them, or are there
no priceguides for the US servers on d2jsp?)

I admit cluelessness here, I never got o d2jsp, as they used to sell
bots.

I don't really understand this.

You yourself have many time confirmed your large supply of HRs came from
you running UT for someone running thousands (I think 2000 was the number
you mentioned) of bots to gather items and stuff for his Diablo 2 item
shop.

So if you have dealings with such a person/enitity, why then the aversion
against a site which sells botting-software?

Or I totally misunderstood your source of HRs, so you should perhaps
explain again where you found your 'Fountain of HRs'. ;)

For me personally the same reasoning as Markus applies BTW: I don't like
d2jsp for the fact they sell botting software (but in the current day I
think all people who used it will have gotten burned badly). However, it
is a _very_ active forum, and their 'forum gold' is about the most
reliable/least-hassle-involved way to transfer ex-Ladder wealth to a new
Ladder.

Regards,

Patrick.

[Jason]

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Shiflet

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are
almost perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand , no
skill, FCR, etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want +skills(and
maybe FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want something like
Highlords...although it could make a nice ammy for a melee druid
using a 2 handed weapon...

A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all, damage
reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a character that prefers
it to whatever ammy they're wearing.
--
Shaun.

Nice items like these show a subtle way in which the game is different
for one-shot players verses chronic players. If I were playing
untwinked through the game in SP, without muling, then that item would
be very nice in situations where I expected to take a serious beating,
such as when going against the council, or the ancients. I'd use that
in place of whatever my "normal" ammy was, and be a happy camper.
However, for those of us who have mules of crap just sitting around,
there's really no need to care about such items.

Having said that, I'll trade just about anything to get my hands on a
"Berserker's amulet of Life Everlasting", +2 Barb skills, damage
reduced my 25...

-Jason

[~misfit~]

Post by Jason

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Shiflet

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are
almost perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand ,
no skill, FCR, etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want
+skills(and maybe FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want
something like Highlords...although it could make a nice ammy for
a melee druid using a 2 handed weapon...

A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all,
damage reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a
character that prefers it to whatever ammy they're wearing.
--
Shaun.

Nice items like these show a subtle way in which the game is different
for one-shot players verses chronic players. If I were playing
untwinked through the game in SP, without muling, then that item would
be very nice in situations where I expected to take a serious beating,
such as when going against the council, or the ancients. I'd use that
in place of whatever my "normal" ammy was, and be a happy camper.
However, for those of us who have mules of crap just sitting around,
there's really no need to care about such items.
Having said that, I'll trade just about anything to get my hands on a
"Berserker's amulet of Life Everlasting", +2 Barb skills, damage
reduced my 25...

Indeed. Also, I know of people who would give their second-born child for an
Arch-angel's amulet of Life Everlasting for their invulnera-sorcs.

Especially if those two attributes happened to be on a yellow ammy with
resists. (Hmm, just looked it up, "Life Everlasting" isn't available on rare
ammy, only "of Life" with a maximum damage reduction of 7. I think a bule
one would be better, forget the resists).

[Jason]

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Jason

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Shiflet

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are
almost perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand ,
no skill, FCR, etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want
+skills(and maybe FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want
something like Highlords...although it could make a nice ammy for
a melee druid using a 2 handed weapon...

A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all,
damage reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a
character that prefers it to whatever ammy they're wearing.
--
Shaun.

Nice items like these show a subtle way in which the game is different
for one-shot players verses chronic players. If I were playing
untwinked through the game in SP, without muling, then that item would
be very nice in situations where I expected to take a serious beating,
such as when going against the council, or the ancients. I'd use that
in place of whatever my "normal" ammy was, and be a happy camper.
However, for those of us who have mules of crap just sitting around,
there's really no need to care about such items.
Having said that, I'll trade just about anything to get my hands on a
"Berserker's amulet of Life Everlasting", +2 Barb skills, damage
reduced my 25...

Indeed. Also, I know of people who would give their second-born child for an
Arch-angel's amulet of Life Everlasting for their invulnera-sorcs.
Especially if those two attributes happened to be on a yellow ammy with
resists. (Hmm, just looked it up, "Life Everlasting" isn't available on rare
ammy, only "of Life" with a maximum damage reduction of 7. I think a bule
one would be better, forget the resists).
--
Shaun.

This is one area where I think that the uniques and dupewords really
ruined the game. Once upon a time blue items had the very best mods,
but yellow items had MORE mods. Uniques and runeqords were excellent,
but limited in scope. Now, uniques and dupewords ARE the items, and
everything else is for "noobs".

-Jason

[Mickey]

Post by Jason

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Jason

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Shiflet

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are
almost perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand ,
no skill, FCR, etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want
+skills(and maybe FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want
something like Highlords...although it could make a nice ammy for
a melee druid using a 2 handed weapon...

A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all,
damage reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a
character that prefers it to whatever ammy they're wearing.
--
Shaun.

Nice items like these show a subtle way in which the game is different
for one-shot players verses chronic players. If I were playing
untwinked through the game in SP, without muling, then that item would
be very nice in situations where I expected to take a serious beating,
such as when going against the council, or the ancients. I'd use that
in place of whatever my "normal" ammy was, and be a happy camper.
However, for those of us who have mules of crap just sitting around,
there's really no need to care about such items.
Having said that, I'll trade just about anything to get my hands on a
"Berserker's amulet of Life Everlasting", +2 Barb skills, damage
reduced my 25...

Indeed. Also, I know of people who would give their second-born child for an
Arch-angel's amulet of Life Everlasting for their invulnera-sorcs.
Especially if those two attributes happened to be on a yellow ammy with
resists. (Hmm, just looked it up, "Life Everlasting" isn't available on rare
ammy, only "of Life" with a maximum damage reduction of 7. I think a bule
one would be better, forget the resists).
--
Shaun.

This is one area where I think that the uniques and dupewords really
ruined the game. Once upon a time blue items had the very best mods,
but yellow items had MORE mods. Uniques and runeqords were excellent,
but limited in scope. Now, uniques and dupewords ARE the items, and
everything else is for "noobs".

My assassin uses a blue ammy, my lightning sorc uses yellow booties.

Mickey

[Jason]

Post by Mickey

Post by Jason

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Jason

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Shiflet

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are
almost perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand ,
no skill, FCR, etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want
+skills(and maybe FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want
something like Highlords...although it could make a nice ammy for
a melee druid using a 2 handed weapon...

A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all,
damage reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a
character that prefers it to whatever ammy they're wearing.
--
Shaun.

Nice items like these show a subtle way in which the game is different
for one-shot players verses chronic players. If I were playing
untwinked through the game in SP, without muling, then that item would
be very nice in situations where I expected to take a serious beating,
such as when going against the council, or the ancients. I'd use that
in place of whatever my "normal" ammy was, and be a happy camper.
However, for those of us who have mules of crap just sitting around,
there's really no need to care about such items.
Having said that, I'll trade just about anything to get my hands on a
"Berserker's amulet of Life Everlasting", +2 Barb skills, damage
reduced my 25...

Indeed. Also, I know of people who would give their second-born child for an
Arch-angel's amulet of Life Everlasting for their invulnera-sorcs.
Especially if those two attributes happened to be on a yellow ammy with
resists. (Hmm, just looked it up, "Life Everlasting" isn't available on rare
ammy, only "of Life" with a maximum damage reduction of 7. I think a bule
one would be better, forget the resists).
--
Shaun.

This is one area where I think that the uniques and dupewords really
ruined the game. Once upon a time blue items had the very best mods,
but yellow items had MORE mods. Uniques and runeqords were excellent,
but limited in scope. Now, uniques and dupewords ARE the items, and
everything else is for "noobs".

My assassin uses a blue ammy, my lightning sorc uses yellow booties.
Mickey

I'm just being nostalgic. Pay no attention to that man behind the
curtain.

-jason

[john graesser]

Post by ~misfit~

Post by Shiflet

Post by hmmm!
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are
almost perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand , no
skill, FCR, etc.
What do you think?

Probably not worth much I'm afraid. Casters usually want +skills(and
maybe FCR) on their ammy, meleers usually want something like
Highlords...although it could make a nice ammy for a melee druid
using a 2 handed weapon...

A bit like my Chromatic ammy of Life Everlasting, 30% res all, damage
reduced by 25. Nice to look at but I've never found a character that prefers
it to whatever ammy they're wearing.

An ES sorc would like it. Mine is wearing a dr 23 (no second mod) ammy that
sufficed all the way to lvl 81 and matriarch status. Her resists almost made
it to around 0 when I made my hoto for her, but another 30 would be great.
She currently runs tours down to normal baal each night after I get home
from work, till I get sleepy enough to go to bed.

[Mark (newsgroups)]

Post by hmmm!
On a Nilly walk, i found that blue amulet with 93 to life and 29 res.
all.
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are almost
perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand , no skill, FCR,
etc.
What do you think?
(Of course on that single Nilly walk, i found a lot of other nice
stuff: Nilly himself dropped 11 Destruction keys, 2 Maras, one cheap
Anihilus (39/28/95...sheeesh!), 6 Hate keys and 27 high runes (the
lowest beeing Zod IIRC). Charsi was happy....

About the only use I could think of it is for a dedicated UT runner.
+skills from an amulet are nice for him, but not totally necessary.
Whereas extra res and life are always welcome in UT.

[ModeratelyConfused]

Post by Mark (newsgroups)

Post by hmmm!
On a Nilly walk, i found that blue amulet with 93 to life and 29 res.
all.
I am perplex on how good that ammy is. In a way those 2 mods are almost
perfect and are really helpfull, but on the other hand , no skill, FCR,
etc.
What do you think?
(Of course on that single Nilly walk, i found a lot of other nice
stuff: Nilly himself dropped 11 Destruction keys, 2 Maras, one cheap
Anihilus (39/28/95...sheeesh!), 6 Hate keys and 27 high runes (the
lowest beeing Zod IIRC). Charsi was happy....

About the only use I could think of it is for a dedicated UT runner.
+skills from an amulet are nice for him, but not totally necessary.
Whereas extra res and life are always welcome in UT.

Hmm, I've got something similar, maybe I should try it out on my next UT
run, ditching the +3 offensive/6% LL amulet I'm wearing.

[hmmm!]

Post by Mark (newsgroups)
About the only use I could think of it is for a dedicated UT runner.
+skills from an amulet are nice for him, but not totally necessary.
Whereas extra res and life are always welcome in UT.

Good idea Mark.

My pally is using Saracen (17res.all) for the moment.
Could be a good idea to switch to the other one before entering UT.
At least until i find a Mara or Metalgrid....

Louis

[Mark (newsgroups)]

Post by hmmm!

Post by Mark (newsgroups)
About the only use I could think of it is for a dedicated UT runner.
+skills from an amulet are nice for him, but not totally necessary.
Whereas extra res and life are always welcome in UT.

Good idea Mark.
My pally is using Saracen (17res.all) for the moment.
Could be a good idea to switch to the other one before entering UT.
At least until i find a Mara or Metalgrid....

Change Saracen's Chance to anything else before entering UT. The chance
to cast Iron Maiden will override Life Tap and would probably mean an
early death for you Pally.