Discussion:
Faith Bow Questions
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Vernon Balbert
2006-10-29 15:36:00 UTC
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In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since the
maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't seem to be
any limitations on which bow to use.

The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet,
because I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to make
one yet. However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need the
appropriate strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the
appropriate bow.

The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength and dexterity will
a rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the use of
other items, but I need to have some kind of idea where things start.
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Mark
2006-10-29 16:40:11 UTC
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The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength and dexterity will a
rogue merc have?
http://www.theamazonbasin.com/d2/forums/index.php?showtopic=63404

L65 (Normal), 882 Life, 756 Def, 113 Str, 169 Dex, 1947 AR, etc.

Regards-
Mark

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Mickey
2006-10-29 17:05:47 UTC
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Post by Vernon Balbert
In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since the
maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't seem to be
any limitations on which bow to use.
The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet, because
I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to make one yet.
However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need the appropriate
strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the appropriate bow.
The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength and dexterity will a
rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the use of other
items, but I need to have some kind of idea where things start.
110 STR
169 DEX

Enough to use a Ward bow, and with any sort of help (to STR), enough to use
a great bow also.

Mickey
EvilBill
2006-10-29 17:28:26 UTC
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Post by Mickey
Post by Vernon Balbert
In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since
the maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't
seem to be any limitations on which bow to use.
The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet,
because I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to
make one yet. However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need
the appropriate strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the
appropriate bow. The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of
strength and dexterity
will a rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the
use of other items, but I need to have some kind of idea where
things start.
110 STR
169 DEX
Enough to use a Ward bow, and with any sort of help (to STR),
Gloom armour, for example. <g>
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
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Mickey
2006-10-29 18:16:38 UTC
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Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
Post by Vernon Balbert
In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since
the maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't
seem to be any limitations on which bow to use.
The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet,
because I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to
make one yet. However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need
the appropriate strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the
appropriate bow. The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength
and dexterity
will a rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the
use of other items, but I need to have some kind of idea where
things start.
110 STR
169 DEX
Enough to use a Ward bow, and with any sort of help (to STR),
Gloom armour, for example. <g>
Or a giant helm :)
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5

Mickey
Vernon Balbert
2006-10-29 18:22:01 UTC
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On 10/29/2006 10:16 AM, Mickey went clickity clack on the keyboard and
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
Post by Vernon Balbert
In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since
the maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't
seem to be any limitations on which bow to use.
The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet,
because I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to
make one yet. However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need
the appropriate strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the
appropriate bow. The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength
and dexterity
will a rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the
use of other items, but I need to have some kind of idea where
things start.
110 STR
169 DEX
Enough to use a Ward bow, and with any sort of help (to STR),
Gloom armour, for example. <g>
Or a giant helm :)
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a bit
more difficult for that.
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Patrick Vervoorn
2006-10-29 19:25:51 UTC
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Post by Vernon Balbert
On 10/29/2006 10:16 AM, Mickey went clickity clack on the keyboard and
Post by Mickey
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a bit
more difficult for that.
Don't forget:

Ral+Amn+PAmethyst+Weapon in the cube...

Regards,

Patrick.
Bingain
2006-10-29 20:24:28 UTC
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Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a bit
more difficult for that.
Ward bow has average damage of 36.5 vs 32 for a Great bow. Ward
bow's base speed is 0 while Great bow's base speed is -10.
Assuming you roll slvl 15 fanaticism and the Rogue has no other
IAS items, damage comparison (w/o considering Rogue's dex) are
as follows:

Great bow Damage/Hit = 32 x (1+330%+288%) = 229.76
/Sec 229.76 x 25 / 11 = 605.73

Ward bow Damage/Hit = 36.5 x (1+330%+288%) = 262.07
/Sec 262.07 x 25 / 12 = 545.98

Great bow delivers better damage-over-time than a Ward bow. No
wonder it's much more popular in trading channel.

I'd go for a Great bow, either use +str item for Rogue, or wait
a few levels. Faith is not a cheap runeword, and is worth making
it in a bow you/your Rogue will enjoy in the long term, or has a
good second hand market if you get into serious disputes with
the Rogue about her remuneration package.

Bing
~misfit~
2006-10-30 00:43:57 UTC
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Post by Bingain
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a
bit more difficult for that.
Ward bow has average damage of 36.5 vs 32 for a Great bow. Ward
bow's base speed is 0 while Great bow's base speed is -10.
Assuming you roll slvl 15 fanaticism and the Rogue has no other
IAS items, damage comparison (w/o considering Rogue's dex) are
Great bow Damage/Hit = 32 x (1+330%+288%) = 229.76
/Sec 229.76 x 25 / 11 = 605.73
Ward bow Damage/Hit = 36.5 x (1+330%+288%) = 262.07
/Sec 262.07 x 25 / 12 = 545.98
Great bow delivers better damage-over-time than a Ward bow. No
wonder it's much more popular in trading channel.
I'd go for a Great bow, either use +str item for Rogue, or wait
a few levels. Faith is not a cheap runeword, and is worth making
it in a bow you/your Rogue will enjoy in the long term, or has a
good second hand market if you get into serious disputes with
the Rogue about her remuneration package.
I agree, have three Faiths, all in GBs. Rogue can use natively at lvl 71 or,
at 65, needs an additional 8 st. It's not hard to get 8 st, a socket in your
prefered headgear maybe with an amethyst (?) in it. Or use a Naj's circlet
or any number of hats/coats that give st.
--
Shaun.
Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
2006-10-30 09:20:28 UTC
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Post by ~misfit~
Post by Bingain
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a
bit more difficult for that.
Ward bow has average damage of 36.5 vs 32 for a Great bow. Ward
bow's base speed is 0 while Great bow's base speed is -10.
Assuming you roll slvl 15 fanaticism and the Rogue has no other
IAS items, damage comparison (w/o considering Rogue's dex) are
Great bow Damage/Hit = 32 x (1+330%+288%) = 229.76
/Sec 229.76 x 25 / 11 = 605.73
Ward bow Damage/Hit = 36.5 x (1+330%+288%) = 262.07
/Sec 262.07 x 25 / 12 = 545.98
Great bow delivers better damage-over-time than a Ward bow. No
wonder it's much more popular in trading channel.
I'd go for a Great bow, either use +str item for Rogue, or wait
a few levels. Faith is not a cheap runeword, and is worth making
it in a bow you/your Rogue will enjoy in the long term, or has a
good second hand market if you get into serious disputes with
the Rogue about her remuneration package.
I agree, have three Faiths, all in GBs. Rogue can use natively at lvl 71
or, at 65, needs an additional 8 st. It's not hard to get 8 st, a socket
in your prefered headgear maybe with an amethyst (?) in it. Or use a Naj's
circlet or any number of hats/coats that give st.
--
Shaun.
I personally go for the uber rogue setup.

Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)

(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with her
faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the chain,
meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.

And no they're not "Dupewords"
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Vernon Balbert
2006-10-30 12:40:55 UTC
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On 10/30/2006 1:20 AM, Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop went clickity clack on
Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Post by ~misfit~
Post by Bingain
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a
bit more difficult for that.
Ward bow has average damage of 36.5 vs 32 for a Great bow. Ward
bow's base speed is 0 while Great bow's base speed is -10.
Assuming you roll slvl 15 fanaticism and the Rogue has no other
IAS items, damage comparison (w/o considering Rogue's dex) are
Great bow Damage/Hit = 32 x (1+330%+288%) = 229.76
/Sec 229.76 x 25 / 11 = 605.73
Ward bow Damage/Hit = 36.5 x (1+330%+288%) = 262.07
/Sec 262.07 x 25 / 12 = 545.98
Great bow delivers better damage-over-time than a Ward bow. No
wonder it's much more popular in trading channel.
I'd go for a Great bow, either use +str item for Rogue, or wait
a few levels. Faith is not a cheap runeword, and is worth making
it in a bow you/your Rogue will enjoy in the long term, or has a
good second hand market if you get into serious disputes with
the Rogue about her remuneration package.
I agree, have three Faiths, all in GBs. Rogue can use natively at lvl 71
or, at 65, needs an additional 8 st. It's not hard to get 8 st, a socket
in your prefered headgear maybe with an amethyst (?) in it. Or use a Naj's
circlet or any number of hats/coats that give st.
--
Shaun.
I personally go for the uber rogue setup.
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with her
faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the chain,
meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and
most of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
--
I don't have to be careful, I've got a gun!
Mickey
2006-10-30 13:08:29 UTC
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On 10/30/2006 1:20 AM, Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop went clickity clack on the
Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Post by ~misfit~
Post by Bingain
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a
bit more difficult for that.
Ward bow has average damage of 36.5 vs 32 for a Great bow. Ward
bow's base speed is 0 while Great bow's base speed is -10.
Assuming you roll slvl 15 fanaticism and the Rogue has no other
IAS items, damage comparison (w/o considering Rogue's dex) are
Great bow Damage/Hit = 32 x (1+330%+288%) = 229.76
/Sec 229.76 x 25 / 11 = 605.73
Ward bow Damage/Hit = 36.5 x (1+330%+288%) = 262.07
/Sec 262.07 x 25 / 12 = 545.98
Great bow delivers better damage-over-time than a Ward bow. No
wonder it's much more popular in trading channel.
I'd go for a Great bow, either use +str item for Rogue, or wait
a few levels. Faith is not a cheap runeword, and is worth making
it in a bow you/your Rogue will enjoy in the long term, or has a
good second hand market if you get into serious disputes with
the Rogue about her remuneration package.
I agree, have three Faiths, all in GBs. Rogue can use natively at lvl 71
or, at 65, needs an additional 8 st. It's not hard to get 8 st, a socket
in your prefered headgear maybe with an amethyst (?) in it. Or use a
Naj's circlet or any number of hats/coats that give st.
--
Shaun.
I personally go for the uber rogue setup.
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with her
faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the chain,
meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and most
of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
They ask :)

Mickey
Vernon Balbert
2006-10-30 14:34:14 UTC
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On 10/30/2006 5:08 AM, Mickey went clickity clack on the keyboard and
Post by Mickey
On 10/30/2006 1:20 AM, Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop went clickity clack on the
Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Post by ~misfit~
Post by Bingain
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a
bit more difficult for that.
Ward bow has average damage of 36.5 vs 32 for a Great bow. Ward
bow's base speed is 0 while Great bow's base speed is -10.
Assuming you roll slvl 15 fanaticism and the Rogue has no other
IAS items, damage comparison (w/o considering Rogue's dex) are
Great bow Damage/Hit = 32 x (1+330%+288%) = 229.76
/Sec 229.76 x 25 / 11 = 605.73
Ward bow Damage/Hit = 36.5 x (1+330%+288%) = 262.07
/Sec 262.07 x 25 / 12 = 545.98
Great bow delivers better damage-over-time than a Ward bow. No
wonder it's much more popular in trading channel.
I'd go for a Great bow, either use +str item for Rogue, or wait
a few levels. Faith is not a cheap runeword, and is worth making
it in a bow you/your Rogue will enjoy in the long term, or has a
good second hand market if you get into serious disputes with
the Rogue about her remuneration package.
I agree, have three Faiths, all in GBs. Rogue can use natively at lvl 71
or, at 65, needs an additional 8 st. It's not hard to get 8 st, a socket
in your prefered headgear maybe with an amethyst (?) in it. Or use a
Naj's circlet or any number of hats/coats that give st.
--
Shaun.
I personally go for the uber rogue setup.
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with her
faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the chain,
meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and most
of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
They ask :)
I like to ask, but only when I feel as if I'm not doing well on my own.
I prefer to try to do for myself. But I also realize I'll never be
gamer of the year, so when I'm ready for what I need and I've pounded my
head against the wall enough times, I'll hit you up. Thanks!
--
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think so, Brain! But isn't a dreadlock hair extension awfully expensive?"
Mickey
2006-10-30 14:42:55 UTC
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Post by Vernon Balbert
On 10/30/2006 5:08 AM, Mickey went clickity clack on the keyboard and
Post by Mickey
Post by Vernon Balbert
On 10/30/2006 1:20 AM, Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop went clickity clack on
Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Post by ~misfit~
Post by Bingain
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Mickey
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a
bit more difficult for that.
Ward bow has average damage of 36.5 vs 32 for a Great bow. Ward
bow's base speed is 0 while Great bow's base speed is -10.
Assuming you roll slvl 15 fanaticism and the Rogue has no other
IAS items, damage comparison (w/o considering Rogue's dex) are
Great bow Damage/Hit = 32 x (1+330%+288%) = 229.76
/Sec 229.76 x 25 / 11 = 605.73
Ward bow Damage/Hit = 36.5 x (1+330%+288%) = 262.07
/Sec 262.07 x 25 / 12 = 545.98
Great bow delivers better damage-over-time than a Ward bow. No
wonder it's much more popular in trading channel.
I'd go for a Great bow, either use +str item for Rogue, or wait
a few levels. Faith is not a cheap runeword, and is worth making
it in a bow you/your Rogue will enjoy in the long term, or has a
good second hand market if you get into serious disputes with
the Rogue about her remuneration package.
I agree, have three Faiths, all in GBs. Rogue can use natively at lvl
71 or, at 65, needs an additional 8 st. It's not hard to get 8 st, a
socket in your prefered headgear maybe with an amethyst (?) in it. Or
use a Naj's circlet or any number of hats/coats that give st.
--
Shaun.
I personally go for the uber rogue setup.
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with
her faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the
chain, meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and
most of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
They ask :)
I like to ask, but only when I feel as if I'm not doing well on my own. I
prefer to try to do for myself. But I also realize I'll never be gamer of
the year, so when I'm ready for what I need and I've pounded my head
against the wall enough times, I'll hit you up. Thanks!
Sure thing, any time :)

Mickey
Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
2006-10-30 14:47:04 UTC
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Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with her
faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the chain,
meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and most
of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
--
I don't have to be careful, I've got a gun!
The dragon was courtesy of Mickey, (i think 1 rune and the sup archon) the
other 2 i made off my own back through trading for the runes to make them
then getting the item to put them in. :) Of course its not one sided, most
of the AGD crew have a "If im not using it, then its being wasted" policy,
so if i know i have something and someone else needs that thing i'll gladly
give them it. Sorta a "pay it forward" thing. :)
--
"Anything else from this point on is just Gravy...."

USWest SCL Acct Names:
*echobeaver *Zon/Sorc/Druid/Necro*
*echomules1 *mules*
*agd_helper *Enchantress + CryBarb*
Mickey
2006-10-30 16:37:53 UTC
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Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with her
faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the
chain, meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and
most of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
--
I don't have to be careful, I've got a gun!
The dragon was courtesy of Mickey, (i think 1 rune and the sup archon) the
other 2 i made off my own back through trading for the runes to make them
then getting the item to put them in. :) Of course its not one sided, most
of the AGD crew have a "If im not using it, then its being wasted" policy,
so if i know i have something and someone else needs that thing i'll
gladly give them it. Sorta a "pay it forward" thing. :)
Same philosophy I have used for years now. I have enough mules with stuff I
will never get around to using :)

Mickey
Vernon Balbert
2006-10-30 17:16:54 UTC
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Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with her
faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the chain,
meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and most
of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
--
I don't have to be careful, I've got a gun!
The dragon was courtesy of Mickey, (i think 1 rune and the sup archon) the
other 2 i made off my own back through trading for the runes to make them
then getting the item to put them in. :) Of course its not one sided, most
of the AGD crew have a "If im not using it, then its being wasted" policy,
so if i know i have something and someone else needs that thing i'll gladly
give them it. Sorta a "pay it forward" thing. :)
I do much the same thing, although I don't have any uber or godly stuff
that's not being used. I have only two characters that have completed
hell. I have a smiter/zealer that I've stopped playing for a while and
he donated a nice Spirit sword to my sorc. But what I do have, I gladly
donate to those who are in need. Problem is, the best of it is only
mid-game quality.
--
Welcome To Shit Creek-----Sorry, We're Out of Paddles
Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
2006-10-30 19:46:02 UTC
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Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Post by Vernon Balbert
Post by Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
Faith Great Bow
Dragon Archon Plate
Dream Bone Visage :)
(plus she's a cold arrow) that covers 3 of the "Elements" to go with
her faith, plus especially on barbs or druids her life will go off the
chain, meaning Life leech really isn't that big a problem.
And no they're not "Dupewords"
How do you guys collect such items? I'm lucky I have what I have and
most of the good stuff was given to me. Sheesh!
--
I don't have to be careful, I've got a gun!
The dragon was courtesy of Mickey, (i think 1 rune and the sup archon)
the other 2 i made off my own back through trading for the runes to make
them then getting the item to put them in. :) Of course its not one
sided, most of the AGD crew have a "If im not using it, then its being
wasted" policy, so if i know i have something and someone else needs that
thing i'll gladly give them it. Sorta a "pay it forward" thing. :)
I do much the same thing, although I don't have any uber or godly stuff
that's not being used. I have only two characters that have completed
hell. I have a smiter/zealer that I've stopped playing for a while and he
donated a nice Spirit sword to my sorc. But what I do have, I gladly
donate to those who are in need. Problem is, the best of it is only
mid-game quality.
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Welcome To Shit Creek-----Sorry, We're Out of Paddles
I only have 1 playing account right now the rest are mules, but that account
has 6 lvl 80 chars on it, (soon to be 7)

1 Zon (Faith Strafazon) 1 Necro (skellimancer) 1 Druid (furywolf) 1 sorc
(TalRasha Fireball/FO) 1 sin (DS/LS Trapasin) 1 barb (IK Concentration) and
1 pally (hammerdin) :) and a mule barb.
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"Anything else from this point on is just Gravy...."

USWest SCL Acct Names:
*echobeaver *Zon/Sorc/Druid/Necro*
*echomules1 *mules*
*agd_helper *Enchantress + CryBarb*
Mickey
2006-10-29 21:26:28 UTC
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On 10/29/2006 10:16 AM, Mickey went clickity clack on the keyboard and
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Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
Post by Vernon Balbert
In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since
the maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't
seem to be any limitations on which bow to use.
The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet,
because I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to
make one yet. However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need
the appropriate strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the
appropriate bow. The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength
and dexterity
will a rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the
use of other items, but I need to have some kind of idea where
things start.
110 STR
169 DEX
Enough to use a Ward bow, and with any sort of help (to STR),
Gloom armour, for example. <g>
Or a giant helm :)
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Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
So I'd have to find a Ward bow with 4 sockets. That makes things a bit
more difficult for that.
Or a white one and cube it and pray.

Mickey
Pete "Shadowalk" Heslop
2006-10-29 18:29:07 UTC
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Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
Post by Vernon Balbert
In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since
the maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't
seem to be any limitations on which bow to use.
The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet,
because I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to
make one yet. However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need
the appropriate strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the
appropriate bow. The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength
and dexterity
will a rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the
use of other items, but I need to have some kind of idea where
things start.
110 STR
169 DEX
Enough to use a Ward bow, and with any sort of help (to STR),
Gloom armour, for example. <g>
Or a giant helm :)
Post by EvilBill
Post by Mickey
enough to use a great bow also.
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
Mickey
My Rogue loves her Faith 2/15 Great bow :)
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"Anything else from this point on is just Gravy...."

USWest SCL Acct Names:
*echobeaver *Zon/Sorc/Druid/Necro*
*echomules1 *mules*
*agd_helper *Enchantress + CryBarb*
EvilBill
2006-10-29 19:20:46 UTC
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Post by EvilBill
How many sockets do those two bows get from Larzuk?
The Great bow gets 4
The Ward bow gets 5
I definitely need to get more of my mules their socket quests. <g>
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* I always hope for the best. Experience, unfortunately, has taught me
to expect the worst.

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~misfit~
2006-10-30 00:37:44 UTC
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Post by Vernon Balbert
In researching the construction of a Faith bow, I find that due to a
minimum needed clevel of 65 is needed thanks to the Jah rune. Since
the maximum level needed for any normal bow is 63, there doesn't seem
to be any limitations on which bow to use.
The reason I'm looking into a faith bow is for my sword frenzy barb's
merc. Since he's only clevel 42 (and hasn't even gone to NM yet,
because I want to drag along a mule) so it's kind of pointless to make
one yet. However, when I do make a Faith bow, I'm going to need the
appropriate strength and dexterity for the mule to handle the
appropriate bow.
The question is: At clevel 65, what kind of strength and dexterity
will a rogue merc have? Obviously this can be modified through the
use of other items, but I need to have some kind of idea where things
start.
The only bow to make Faith in is a Great Bow. (IMO) Merc can wield it just
fine, it's mondo fast and the average damage is similar to all the other
elites, higher when you take speed into account. Also it gets 4 sockets from
Larzuk.
--
Shaun.
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