Is such sacred targe worth anything ?

[szpakuu]

Today during Mef run he was so kind to drop waterwalks and magic sacred
targe.
Waterwalk are nothing special; sacred targe is magical (so - not for
runewords)but it has 47% enhanced damage, +86 to AR and 13% enhanced
defence. Is it good for anything ?

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by szpakuu
Today during Mef run he was so kind to drop waterwalks and magic sacred
targe.
Waterwalk are nothing special; sacred targe is magical (so - not for
runewords)but it has 47% enhanced damage, +86 to AR and 13% enhanced
defence. Is it good for anything ?

No. It's crap. See:

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/paladinshields.shtm

Max on it could've been 65% ED and +121 AR. 13%ED is nothing. And since
it's magical, you can do nothing with it.

Also, the ED mod isn't that popular really, people'd rather more like the
Chromatic mod with 45 res-all on a plain one.

It could've been worth a lot of it'd been a Jewellers Sacred Targe of
Deflecting though. Even without the built-in Paladin shield mods that's a
useful mod on any about any magical shield.

So if you ever find a Jewellers <shield> of Deflecting with 4 sockets....
Sell it for loads of other stuff.

Regards,

Patrick.

[Stefan Roth]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
It could've been worth a lot of it'd been a Jewellers Sacred Targe of
Deflecting though. Even without the built-in Paladin shield mods that's a
useful mod on any about any magical shield.
So if you ever find a Jewellers <shield> of Deflecting with 4 sockets....
Sell it for loads of other stuff.

what exactly will be on such a shield, could it be that deflecting is
3+combat ?
what is "jewellers" then ?
Stefan

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by Stefan Roth

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
It could've been worth a lot of it'd been a Jewellers Sacred Targe of
Deflecting though. Even without the built-in Paladin shield mods that's a
useful mod on any about any magical shield.
So if you ever find a Jewellers <shield> of Deflecting with 4 sockets....
Sell it for loads of other stuff.

what exactly will be on such a shield, could it be that deflecting is
3+combat ?
what is "jewellers" then ?

It's all on the Arreat Summit you know...?

The 'of Deflecting' suffix is something like 30% increased Block rate +
20% increased chance of blocking. (Don't pin me on the exact numbers, look
it up at the Arreat Summit if you want to know exactly.).

The 'Jewellers' prefix adds 4 sockets to items that support those, or the
maximum available on items with less. So a Jewellers Tiara gets 3 sockets.
A Jewellers Monarch gets 4 sockets.

People use these types of shields on PvP characters and fill them with 4 x
40%ED/15%IAS jewels.

Regards,

Patrick.

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
The 'Jewellers' prefix adds 4 sockets to items that support those, or the
maximum available on items with less. So a Jewellers Tiara gets 3 sockets.
A Jewellers Monarch gets 4 sockets.
People use these types of shields on PvP characters and fill them with 4 x
40%ED/15%IAS jewels.

I found a 3 socket Diadem the other night. No additional mods though. I
don't suppose it's worth anything then? Or are these used to reroll? (I
found it in Hell throne room).

[Brian Kastel]

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
The 'Jewellers' prefix adds 4 sockets to items that support those, or the
maximum available on items with less. So a Jewellers Tiara gets 3 sockets.
A Jewellers Monarch gets 4 sockets.
People use these types of shields on PvP characters and fill them with 4 x
40%ED/15%IAS jewels.

I found a 3 socket Diadem the other night. No additional mods though. I
don't suppose it's worth anything then? Or are these used to reroll? (I
found it in Hell throne room).

It'll make a nice Delirium hat for a higher-level character.

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
The 'Jewellers' prefix adds 4 sockets to items that support those, or the
maximum available on items with less. So a Jewellers Tiara gets 3 sockets.
A Jewellers Monarch gets 4 sockets.
People use these types of shields on PvP characters and fill them with 4 x
40%ED/15%IAS jewels.

I found a 3 socket Diadem the other night. No additional mods though. I
don't suppose it's worth anything then? Or are these used to reroll? (I
found it in Hell throne room).

Magic or plain? Plain socketed Diadems are not worth much I think. What
happens when you try to Imbue it at Charsi? Does the game allow you to put
a socketed Diadem in the Imbue-window? If you can't Imbue it, I'd toss it.
A Delirium, as indicated by Brian, would be about the only option, if you
like the 'hat-less' style of a Diadem for one.

If it's magic, it's perhaps even more worthless; it needs a (nice)
secondary mod to become valuable. You could consider rerolling it; I know
of people who reroll Hell Baal found magic Monarchs using the 3 pgems cube
recipe, hoping for that illusive Jewellers Monarch of Deflecting. With a
Diadem, you could hope for a Jewellers/Artisan's Diadem of the Whale or
one of the faster-run mods. If it spawns with the best faster-run mods,
and 3 sockets, you have something worth about 10-30 HR's in your hands...

Regards,

Patrick.

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
The 'Jewellers' prefix adds 4 sockets to items that support those, or the
maximum available on items with less. So a Jewellers Tiara gets 3 sockets.
A Jewellers Monarch gets 4 sockets.
People use these types of shields on PvP characters and fill them with 4 x
40%ED/15%IAS jewels.

I found a 3 socket Diadem the other night. No additional mods though. I
don't suppose it's worth anything then? Or are these used to reroll? (I
found it in Hell throne room).

Magic or plain?

Well it has "no additional mods" so plain, unless you can get magic
items that don't actually have properties :-)

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Plain socketed Diadems are not worth much I think. What
happens when you try to Imbue it at Charsi? Does the game allow you to put
a socketed Diadem in the Imbue-window? If you can't Imbue it, I'd toss it.

I might try the imbue, but I don't think Charsi will imbue a socketed
item as you say. Nah, probably it's worthless.

By the way, I'm still sitting on that 4 socket ethereal scourge. That
trading site says it's worth Mal to Ist, and as you say it's great for
Oath, but I've tried advertising it with games a few times and no-one
seems interested. It's got one mod on it, but I don't think it's
anything special, just enhanced durability or something. It's taking up
space so I don't know what to do with it.

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Magic or plain?

Well it has "no additional mods" so plain, unless you can get magic
items that don't actually have properties :-)

If the item's white (or grey when it has sockets) it's considered to be
'plain'. ;)

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
Plain socketed Diadems are not worth much I think. What
happens when you try to Imbue it at Charsi? Does the game allow you to put
a socketed Diadem in the Imbue-window? If you can't Imbue it, I'd toss it.

I might try the imbue, but I don't think Charsi will imbue a socketed
item as you say. Nah, probably it's worthless.

Any plain Diadem I find is used for the Imbue quest, after which I store
the result on a mule, as reroll fodder for the 6 PSkulls + rare item
recipe...

Post by m***@yahoo.com
By the way, I'm still sitting on that 4 socket ethereal scourge. That
trading site says it's worth Mal to Ist, and as you say it's great for
Oath, but I've tried advertising it with games a few times and no-one
seems interested. It's got one mod on it, but I don't think it's
anything special, just enhanced durability or something. It's taking up
space so I don't know what to do with it.

If there's anything I can do to help, just shout. I still have a Whirlwind
Barbarian to level up, and since I haven't decided on the weapons he'll be
wielding, yet, Mace-class stuff is as good as anything else... So if you
want to part with it, I'm perhaps interested for making Oath in it.

At least an Oath Scourge has more style than yet another Oath Balrog
Blade f.i...

Regards,

Patrick.

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by m***@yahoo.com
By the way, I'm still sitting on that 4 socket ethereal scourge. That
trading site says it's worth Mal to Ist, and as you say it's great for
Oath, but I've tried advertising it with games a few times and no-one
seems interested. It's got one mod on it, but I don't think it's
anything special, just enhanced durability or something. It's taking up
space so I don't know what to do with it.

If there's anything I can do to help, just shout. I still have a Whirlwind
Barbarian to level up, and since I haven't decided on the weapons he'll be
wielding, yet, Mace-class stuff is as good as anything else... So if you
want to part with it, I'm perhaps interested for making Oath in it.
At least an Oath Scourge has more style than yet another Oath Balrog
Blade f.i...

Well, I'll give it a few more tries and see what happens. I don't
expect much. After that, you're welcome to it if it's something you can
use. Alternatively, if you really do think it would be worth something,
then perhaps advertise it on the forums you use and see what turns up.
If you get something decent for it, then we can consider it payment for
the Elite Paladin shield I'm about to borrow from you ;-) (yes, I'm
tired of looking now)

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by m***@yahoo.com

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
If there's anything I can do to help, just shout. I still have a Whirlwind
Barbarian to level up, and since I haven't decided on the weapons he'll be
wielding, yet, Mace-class stuff is as good as anything else... So if you
want to part with it, I'm perhaps interested for making Oath in it.
At least an Oath Scourge has more style than yet another Oath Balrog
Blade f.i...

Well, I'll give it a few more tries and see what happens. I don't
expect much. After that, you're welcome to it if it's something you can
use. Alternatively, if you really do think it would be worth something,
then perhaps advertise it on the forums you use and see what turns up.
If you get something decent for it, then we can consider it payment for
the Elite Paladin shield I'm about to borrow from you ;-) (yes, I'm
tired of looking now)

No problem. I've just checked my shields mule, and I have one 0/4 sockets
Sacred Targe with 27 res-all. And I have a Superior Sacred Targe with
11%ED (176def total), and 44-resall with 3 open sockets (I've considered
making something like Sanctuary (Ko Ko Mal) in it).

If you can give me the precise stats of your ethereal 4 sox Scourge, I
could check in the forums I frequent for people interested in it...

Regards,

Patrick.

[Orion Ryder]

I would have my pally carry it around for snowboarding down the frozen
tundra after I scorch the place.

But I'd get me map that had the WP at the top and then I'd open a TP at
the bootm after snowboarding down and return thru the waypoint so he
would not have to walk back up.

I know I know. Not too many minions of Diablo going to get killed by a
pally taking time off to snowboard down the Tundra.

Orion

[Brian Kastel]

"Orion Ryder" wrote...

Post by Orion Ryder
I would have my pally carry it around for snowboarding down the frozen
tundra after I scorch the place.
But I'd get me map that had the WP at the top and then I'd open a TP at
the bootm after snowboarding down and return thru the waypoint so he
would not have to walk back up.
I know I know. Not too many minions of Diablo going to get killed by a
pally taking time off to snowboard down the Tundra.

Dude... Take a break from the Olympics...

LOL

[chaliban]

Post by Patrick Vervoorn

Post by szpakuu
Today during Mef run he was so kind to drop waterwalks and magic sacred
targe.
Waterwalk are nothing special; sacred targe is magical (so - not for
runewords)but it has 47% enhanced damage, +86 to AR and 13% enhanced
defence. Is it good for anything ?

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/paladinshields.shtm
Max on it could've been 65% ED and +121 AR. 13%ED is nothing. And since
it's magical, you can do nothing with it.
Also, the ED mod isn't that popular really, people'd rather more like the
Chromatic mod with 45 res-all on a plain one.

It used to be that a lot of people liked the normal paladin shields
with 60+ ED. Can anyone confirm this? For LLDs I would imagine, since
they get 4 sockets no matter what the lvl req.

[Patrick Vervoorn]

Post by chaliban

Post by Patrick Vervoorn
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/paladinshields.shtm
Max on it could've been 65% ED and +121 AR. 13%ED is nothing. And since
it's magical, you can do nothing with it.
Also, the ED mod isn't that popular really, people'd rather more like the
Chromatic mod with 45 res-all on a plain one.

It used to be that a lot of people liked the normal paladin shields
with 60+ ED. Can anyone confirm this? For LLDs I would imagine, since
they get 4 sockets no matter what the lvl req.

Yup, also, the Paladin-specific mod doesn't change anything to the level
requirements of such a shield. I.e., you can get the Chromatic prefix with
45 res-all, or the Knight's prefix with 65%ED/121AR and still have a
normal Targe with a level requirement of 3.

However, the OP found a magical (blue) shield...

Regards,

Patrick.

[Blue Jack Sky]

Post by szpakuu
Today during Mef run he was so kind to
drop waterwalks and magic sacred targe.
Waterwalk are nothing special; sacred
targe is magical (so - not for
runewords)but it has 47% enhanced
damage, +86 to AR and 13% enhanced
defence. Is it good for anything ?

Ormus might think so to the tune of 9.5k in gold pieces.