Remind me about Barbarian double attack skills and IAS?

[Jamie Kahn Genet]

G'day all.

It's been ages since I decided to roll a dual wielding Barbarian aiming
to use Double Swing. Or Double Throw or Frenzy for that matter.

Can you please remind me how IAS is calculated with these skills,
especially Double Swing which I'm currently building around?
Specifically I need to know how attack speed and IAS on each weapon
affects the double attack's speed, and anything else relevant about
these skills and IAS overall, and also any mods that might not work the
same would be very helpful. I believe the double attacks use normal
barnarian attack for IAS calulation? Then doubled for the two attacks at
once? Is that right?

I tried a google search, and found a couple useful (I assume - they're a
bit old now) lists of mods on one weapon that will work across both
hands, but nothing useful on IAS for these skills.

I used to know this stuff, but it must be ten years since I built a
Barbarian around these double attack skills. So TIA for your help! :-)

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet, a.k.a Wizardling

[Shiflet]

Post by Jamie Kahn Genet
G'day all.
It's been ages since I decided to roll a dual wielding Barbarian aiming
to use Double Swing. Or Double Throw or Frenzy for that matter.
Can you please remind me how IAS is calculated with these skills,
especially Double Swing which I'm currently building around?
Specifically I need to know how attack speed and IAS on each weapon
affects the double attack's speed, and anything else relevant about
these skills and IAS overall, and also any mods that might not work the
same would be very helpful. I believe the double attacks use normal
barnarian attack for IAS calulation? Then doubled for the two attacks at
once? Is that right?

Double Swing and Frenzy have their own base attack speed, and it is
different than the barbarian's base normal attack speed. For example, a
barbarian with a cryptic sword in the main hand and an ancient sword in
the offhand, with no IAS anywhere, has a base attack speed of 13.5 fpa,
the same setup with Double Swing has a speed of 7 fpa, and with Frenzy,
a starting attack speed of 11.5 fpa though this increases as Frenzy
builds to a max speed of 7.5 fpa(with level 20 Frenzy). The attack speed
is based on IAS from gear and the speed of the mainhand weapon, IAS and
weapon speed of the offhand is not counted, so use your slower weapon in
the offhand(hence why top geared frenziers favor powerful but slow
weapons like eDeath/Last Wish for their offhand). Generally speaking,
Frenzy hits harder and provides a bigger AR boost than Double Swing, and
it hits faster over time than Double Swing does even if it's initial
hits are slower. However, when slowed(such as by Decrepify), Double
Swing will end up hitting substantially faster than even a charged up
Frenzy. Also worth noting, Double Swing of lvl 6 or higher costs no
mana, so you can keep it up even against packs of mana burners.

You can see attack speed with any setup via the German calculator:
http://diablo3.ingame.de/diablo-2/calculatoren/angriffsgeschwindigkeit/?lang=en

As for mods and how they work, mods and bonuses on gear, from skills, or
applied by auras apply to attacks from both weapons, whereas mods on the
weapon itself only apply to attacks from that specific weapon.

[Jamie Kahn Genet]

Shiflet <***@charter.net> wrote:

[snip helpful info]

Post by Shiflet
http://diablo3.ingame.de/diablo-2/calculatoren/angriffsgeschwindigkeit/?la
ng=en
As for mods and how they work, mods and bonuses on gear, from skills, or
applied by auras apply to attacks from both weapons, whereas mods on the
weapon itself only apply to attacks from that specific weapon.

Yeah, I've long had that bookmarked, but it has no choices for Barbarian
double attacks that I can see.

[Jamie Kahn Genet]

Post by Jamie Kahn Genet
[snip helpful info]

Post by Shiflet
http://diablo3.ingame.de/diablo-2/calculatoren/angriffsgeschwindigkeit/?la
ng=en
As for mods and how they work, mods and bonuses on gear, from skills, or
applied by auras apply to attacks from both weapons, whereas mods on the
weapon itself only apply to attacks from that specific weapon.

Yeah, I've long had that bookmarked, but it has no choices for Barbarian
double attacks that I can see.

Ok, now I see it. For some reason not all the menus were displaying
earlier on.

[Shiflet]

Post by Jamie Kahn Genet

Post by Jamie Kahn Genet
Yeah, I've long had that bookmarked, but it has no choices for Barbarian
double attacks that I can see.

Ok, now I see it. For some reason not all the menus were displaying
earlier on.

Ahh okay, I was gonna say they were there for me...I have a good amount
of D2 info floating around in my brain, but I certainly couldn't have
told you the attack speeds of a barb wielding a cryptic+ancient sword
combo without that site! XD